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but the white house is open to it. they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner/obama talks. they are open to it now. what's weird about this policy is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility, even though it's kind of fiscally irresponsible, which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock? let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67 years old out of medicare in a deficit talk is simple. it saves money. the keizer family foundation estimates that when it's all said and done, the government could save $5.7 billion in the first year of that plan. but those 65 and 66-year-olds they don't disappear. they are still going to be here and they are even going to get sick sometimes, which means the savings we'd see by kicking them off medicare rolls will pop back up in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. first and foremost, you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since medicar
but the white house is open to it. they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner/obama talks. they are open to it now. what's weird about this policy is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility, even though it's kind of fiscally irresponsible, which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock? let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67 years old out of...
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, saying he and president obama have their work cut out for them, is it time to get counselling, here is what some are tweeting the show jason said, congress members are all spoiled and bratty kids, they need a firm hand to their back side, they should get paid for what they get done, no more salary. >> they need to get their heads out of politics and do what is right for the country. >> and does congress need counselling? 90% said yes, 10% said no. must have beenheir parents,. >> dave writes, medicare and social security are retirement programs we've been paying into for 40 years. >> i am 73 years old, and am sick of off
, saying he and president obama have their work cut out for them, is it time to get counselling, here is what some are tweeting the show jason said, congress members are all spoiled and bratty kids, they need a firm hand to their back side, they should get paid for what they get done, no more salary. >> they need to get their heads out of politics and do what is right for the country. >> and does congress need counselling? 90% said yes, 10% said no. must have beenheir parents,....
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the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of the financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe there going or the cliff. >> i think their is a real danger of this. one can see a path for obaaa that does not look so terrible if we do go over the cliff. all of the taxes go up, but the democrats have an opportunity to introduce legislation to reduce the taxes for 98 percent of the people leaving the wealthier people, i guess you could call them wealthy, the top two percentage to stay at the high rates. it is possible to do this. lou: it is posible, but i have to ask you, surely the republicans have to understand and had understand six months ago what what transpired in this lame duck session of congress? what this president oud press forward to. the fiscal cliff, the result of sequestration and agreements between the two paries, capitol hill and the w
the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of the financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe there going or the cliff. >> i think their is a real danger of this. one can see a path for obaaa that does not look so terrible if we do go over the cliff. all of the taxes go up, but the...
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it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big deal, a poiseen pill for the unions, they hate right to work. i think it's a smart move economically, a lot of new businesses, when looking at building new factories or plans, they will not even consider states that are right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. i think if it passes, and it will probably be tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on this, i think it puts michigan with a 10% or 11% unemployment rate, back on the map. >> and one of the highest union states in the country, did a lot to help reelect president obama, is steven correct that this actually, economically, makes sense, even if politically it seems kind of out of step? >> i go back and forth on this one. on the downside, it means slower wage growth than would have been the case. that's why businesses want this. i think steven is right. it will lead to more jobs. michigan is at a disadvantage against some of
it's a state that barack obama carried. they got this through in the house and senate, it's a big deal, a poiseen pill for the unions, they hate right to work. i think it's a smart move economically, a lot of new businesses, when looking at building new factories or plans, they will not even consider states that are right to work. so much of the growth in this country is in the right to work states. i think if it passes, and it will probably be tuesday or wednesday when we get a final vote on...
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speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been no progress and there will be nor jockeying and leverage the next week. >> i want to point out in the president's weekly address that was issued yesterday, he says there's wiggle room by democrats to come up with a solution. >> that's true. that's what president obama -- he's been saying to republicans here and there, i'm willing to put more on the table but pour the moment, democrats are saying don't touch social security, don't cut medicare. this will come down to whoever blinks first on tax rates. republicans are going to bend on tax rates. maybe not $250,000 threshold, maybe closer to a million. b
speaker boehner accuses the white house of dragging its feet. >> president obama offered a proposal, republicans didn't like that plan. now the g.o.p. has countered. so the ball is in the white house's court and that's what republicans are basically waiting for. but i don't see -- i don't think you'll see real progress over the next week. we are about two weeks away from christmas. three weeks until we hit the deadline and they're nowhere. what speaker boehner said correct. there's been...
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. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house today for another round of talks to avert the possible cliff. both sides a there keeping the lines of communication open, but no word yet on a breakthrough. brian mooar has the latest from washington. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors today trying to break the tax and spending stalemate recommended take the country over the fiscal cliff in three weeks. they want to about to the president's demand that taxes go up for the wealthy. >> will i accept a tax increase to actually solve our problems? yes. >> we have one house and that's it. this is in the democrats' hands. >> we agree on 98% of this, to me, i would just get it off the table also they don't worry about it. >> they agreed that visits are going up on the rich no matter what. >> you cannot generate enough revenue to have meaningful deficit reduction. >> republicans want a big spending cuts from programs like medicare and social security. >> we do not want to be here in another year or attend. >> on both sides of
. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner meeting at the white house today for another round of talks to avert the possible cliff. both sides a there keeping the lines of communication open, but no word yet on a breakthrough. brian mooar has the latest from washington. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner were behind closed doors today trying to break the tax and spending stalemate recommended take the country over the fiscal cliff in three weeks. they want to...
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today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're waiting for the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican party, and t
today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as...
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if the house passes it, president obama said that he would sign it tomorrow. that would extend the tax cuts for the middle class. that means the middle class can go out and do christmas shopping and buy thing for their families because they would know that their tacks are not going up. it's being held hostage by the house of representatives. that would be the best thing that we can do right now. >> now, if they, in fact, allow the tax cut across the board and then come back in, i understand that some are saying that it's better to have no deal than to have a bad deal. where do you stand on that, senator harkin. >> better noç deal than a bad deal. >> what do you mean by that? >> to make the elderly pay more on their deductibles or co-pays and to mess around with cost of living adjustment on social security, that's a bad deal. that shouldn't even be part of the discussion. if that's where they are headed, i say no deal. we'll discuss that later on. the most important thing right now is just to have the house pass the tax cut for the middle class. that would be
if the house passes it, president obama said that he would sign it tomorrow. that would extend the tax cuts for the middle class. that means the middle class can go out and do christmas shopping and buy thing for their families because they would know that their tacks are not going up. it's being held hostage by the house of representatives. that would be the best thing that we can do right now. >> now, if they, in fact, allow the tax cut across the board and then come back in, i...
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the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which resulted in another petition in -- to withdraw. anything can happen. you can see where this is going. but there's one petition on the site that we here at "the ed show" can certainly get behind. it's a substantial stimulus project that would create millions of jobs, boost america's steel industry, got to love that, expand our space program, and basically guarantee our national security. what could be better? someone has petitioned the administration to build a death star. the fictional moon-size space base capable of destroying entire planets from "star wars." just under 2,000 people have signed the p
the white house's website was created to provide an online platform for citizens to petition the obama administration to take action on issues that they find very important to themselves. the the site makes civic engagement easy and has sparked some interesting causes. and its policy of issuing a response if a petition gathering 25,000 signatures in 30 days has caught the attention of the internet trolls. it was the forum used by over 100,000 texans to secede from the united states, which...
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>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> and hugo chavez is returning to cuba for more cancer surgery but this time he is making sure a new leader is in place in case he doesn't return, and he named the vice president as his choice for a replacement in case something happens for him. the 58-year-old president is still scheduled to be sworn in for a new six-year-term on january 10th. >>> sad news for fans of music star jenni rivera. there doesn't appear to be any survivors. the plane lost contact with air traffic controllers early this morning. so far no cause has been given for that crash. >>> the national menorah in front of t
>>> president barack obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. no details on their conversations but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the last time the president and the speaker met in person to talk about the fiscal cliff was more than three weeks ago. >>> and just after midnight on sunday, making history. the governor signed the voter-approved referendum...
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quote, the obama administration's policies of appeaseme appeasement. i'm sorry to have to ask you this question for about the 9 millionth time. why can't the gop move past its baseless 2012 attack lines and try to think of something constructive to do with this kind of issue? >> right. it feels like -- and it's not just north korea. we heard the same on iran. the cowboy diplomacy saying be tougher. in this case what exactly does that mean? does that mean launch a strike on this nuclear power potentially causing the loss of tens of millions of people. what exactly is the alternative here now that north korea has been in this position since it gained nuclear power under -- during george w. bush's watch. so the notion of a sort of rattling during these times is not terribly productive. and indeed the argument is often made that the more aggressive the response is, the more it empowers the government in north korea. so less is often more in these circumstances. >> indeed it is. ambassador, if i could move you to syria. we learned today that syria is launch
quote, the obama administration's policies of appeaseme appeasement. i'm sorry to have to ask you this question for about the 9 millionth time. why can't the gop move past its baseless 2012 attack lines and try to think of something constructive to do with this kind of issue? >> right. it feels like -- and it's not just north korea. we heard the same on iran. the cowboy diplomacy saying be tougher. in this case what exactly does that mean? does that mean launch a strike on this nuclear...
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obama won the election. we won seats in the house. the american people want action and it is undemocratic. it is un-american when a small minority can deny the majority from going forward. >> and senator, the fiscal situation they are dealing with in washington, it doesn't look like we have made a lot of progress. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, it shouldn't just be the speaker and the president. it should be the voice of the american people. it should be the senate and should be the house. on these issues, ed, the election mattered. and poll after poll tells us the same thing. not a lot of debate but that's what the american people want. >> that's not getting through to speaker boehner. >> and that's why the president and the democrats have to stand tall. the democrats must not snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. we have the american people on our side. we won the election. poll after poll tells us. the american people understand president and the speaker alone in negotiations. what are your thoughts on that? >> well,
obama won the election. we won seats in the house. the american people want action and it is undemocratic. it is un-american when a small minority can deny the majority from going forward. >> and senator, the fiscal situation they are dealing with in washington, it doesn't look like we have made a lot of progress. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, it shouldn't just be the speaker and the president. it should be the voice of the american people. it should be the senate and...
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meeting with president barack obama. we don't know what they said, and we're in the era now of parsing every single word they do say publicly. nancy pelosi was out before cameras, although it's hard to get a lot of indication of what's going on with had statement. take a listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> and if you listened carefully to speaker john boehner, he did say that there was no progress to report, but he may have been hinting a little bit of where there's some room for a deal here if the president will just meet him maybe not even halfway. listen to the speaker. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table, but none of it's going to be possible. the president insists on his position, insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement. >> so where are we now? i think we're basically at a point where speaker boehner
meeting with president barack obama. we don't know what they said, and we're in the era now of parsing every single word they do say publicly. nancy pelosi was out before cameras, although it's hard to get a lot of indication of what's going on with had statement. take a listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> and if you listened carefully to speaker john boehner, he...
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president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even if it's just the wording of their statements and keeping tight-lipped about what was said. don? >> thank you very much. >>> in today's meetings between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they c
president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. >>> the wording here is identical, ending with this, the lines of communication remain open. the two men last spoke by phone on wednesday and on friday mr. boehner said the white house had wasted another week for potential compromise. we don't know what prompted this meeting just that for the first time in a while the two sides are agreeing on something even...
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>> guest: that is accurate, but the fact that president obama, speaker boehner met at the white house sunday, they put out the same statement, they haven't said anything for two days. >> neil: speaker boehner did. he was griping about the president not giving specific on spending. nancy pelosi was saying, you know, boehner is wrong. >> you have to reach to find encouraging news right now. everybody thinks we are going to get together and not let the country go over the fiscal cliff, which, of course, in all common sense and sanity that's what we would do. we have to act. we're on automatic here. you know that. right now i can feel the contrary happening. in both caucuses and the senate, people are beginning to to the inside interest groups so the democrats say don't touch entitlement programs and republicans say i won't support -- >> neil: that's what i'm hearing. driving it further apart. >> yeah, you not going to make it happen that way. there is beginning to be -- there are two conspiracy theories now. one is that the leaders won't mind if the country goes over the cliff because th
>> guest: that is accurate, but the fact that president obama, speaker boehner met at the white house sunday, they put out the same statement, they haven't said anything for two days. >> neil: speaker boehner did. he was griping about the president not giving specific on spending. nancy pelosi was saying, you know, boehner is wrong. >> you have to reach to find encouraging news right now. everybody thinks we are going to get together and not let the country go over the fiscal...
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in fact, even when president obama and house speaker john boehner were in the same room together like they were last night at the white house holiday reception for congress members, they didn't even speak. the president was asked about that today. >> speaker boehner was here at the white house last night for a christmas party. the two of you didn't even speak. what's it going to take to get the two of you in a room to hash this out? >> well, speaker boehner and i speak frequently, and i think the issue right now -- >> when? when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> you know, i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> as i mentioned, the american people want the people they elected to sit down together, work it out. a new gallup poll shows 62% want government leaders to compromise on the fiscal cliff. just 25% said they should stick to their principles. so why is it that this congress and this white house can't seem to get together and compromise on a deal? it certainly isn't the first time republicans and democrats haven't seen eye-to-eye on an i
in fact, even when president obama and house speaker john boehner were in the same room together like they were last night at the white house holiday reception for congress members, they didn't even speak. the president was asked about that today. >> speaker boehner was here at the white house last night for a christmas party. the two of you didn't even speak. what's it going to take to get the two of you in a room to hash this out? >> well, speaker boehner and i speak frequently,...
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. >> a fox urgent, breaking news on a one-on-one meeting held between president obama and house speaker boehner on the so-called fiscal cliff. and the two most important players involving the financial future of our nation. i'm harris falkner, we're told a meeting was held behind closed door and without the media's knowledge and both men tight-lipped about what was said and when we asked for comments, both giving us the same statement, quote, this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of communication remain open, end quote. this meeting comes as the white house and congress appear to be at at impasse, you know by now is crippling spending and tax hikes and could cost us jobs and send us back into recession and to solve the problem, republicans say we must prevent our ballooning national debt from crushing generations. and chief white house correspondent now ed henry joins us by phone with the latest on this breaking story, ed, they kept this und
. >> a fox urgent, breaking news on a one-on-one meeting held between president obama and house speaker boehner on the so-called fiscal cliff. and the two most important players involving the financial future of our nation. i'm harris falkner, we're told a meeting was held behind closed door and without the media's knowledge and both men tight-lipped about what was said and when we asked for comments, both giving us the same statement, quote, this afternoon the president and speaker...
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snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former governor of south carolina not ruling out a run for jim demint's seat in 2014. he told "the wall street journal" it's not a no, but not a yes. he was once a rising star in the rising party before an extramarital affair derailed his career. nikki haley gets to pick a replacement. comedy central's stephen colbert hinted at another unlikely candidate. >> but who will she pick? let's see. want somebody young, somebody conservative, somebody from south carolina, maybe somebody who had a super pac. wait a second. [ applause ] watch where you point that thing. it's powerful. okay. >> that wandering f infinger. colbert t
snow covered bo obama running across the white house north lawn. >> oh. >> did you practice if? >> i've never done this before. >> well, that's the president's top strategist david axelrod squinting as the stash gets slashed in front of everybody. the first time he's had a completely clean face in 40 years, he says. it was all for a good cause after raising a million bucks for the epilepsy charity he founded. could mark sanford be making a political comeback? the former...
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in congress. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i'm willing to find ways to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other americans who depend on it. and i'm willing to make more entitlement spendings cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. >> reporter: his remarks came one day after house speaker john boehner announced the talkes were stalled. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to be report. >> reporter: his democratic counter-part ploals blamed boehner for the stalemate. >> what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> reporter: such is the state of negotiations 23 days before the deadline when federal income tax rates will revert to higher clinton-era leveles, a 2% payroll tax cut will expire, and long-term unemployment benefits will dry up for over two million americans who have been out of work for six months or
in congress. >> reporter: in his saturday weekly address, president obama signaled he is open to making cuts on programs like medicare and medicaid if republicans agree to raise tax rates for the rich. >> i'm willing to find ways to bring down the cost of health care without hurting seniors and other americans who depend on it. and i'm willing to make more entitlement spendings cuts on top of the $1 trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. >> reporter: his...
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house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> part of that tango is republicans cracking on tax rates. that's what president obama will be talking about in michigan today. keeping the public pressure on. but the part for the administrator point of view, tyler, is what do they live john boehner so he can bring his troops along, entitlement, spending cuts, to tell their members we got a good deal. >> john, i find it curious to find that president spent as much time as he has on the road trying to drum up support for this deal. we just had an election all about t
house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are...
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and that requires significant entitlement reform. >> meanwhile, president obama and house speaker john boehner met sunday at the white house. the spokespeople for both men said they agreed not to release details or characterize the meeting. it was their first one-on-one meeting in 18 months as boehner spokesman michael steele says he is still waiting on a counteroffer from the president to last week's republican offer. in michigan today president obama said the house just needs to pass the bill already passed by the senate. >> congress lets middle class taxes go up, economists will tell you that means people will spend nearly $200 billion less than they otherwise would spend. consumer spending is going to go down. all congress needs to do is pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. >> president obama still has the american people firmly on his side. this is what the republicans don't get, apparently. 60% support raising taxes on households earning more than $250,000 a year. this is why a republican congress tom cole said once again fellow re
and that requires significant entitlement reform. >> meanwhile, president obama and house speaker john boehner met sunday at the white house. the spokespeople for both men said they agreed not to release details or characterize the meeting. it was their first one-on-one meeting in 18 months as boehner spokesman michael steele says he is still waiting on a counteroffer from the president to last week's republican offer. in michigan today president obama said the house just needs to pass...
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the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money from super-pacs or anything like that, but they don't want to tap back into their donors. they feel their donors are all tapped out after this election, which, of course, raised record amounts of money. that's why they look to corporate donations. they're pointing out this year the celebrations are going to be much more scaled back. there will be three inaugural balls, no big concert. so it's not the same huge celebration that we saw back in 2008. of course, that's in part because of the economy and they want to be mindful of that. but that is what is really driving this change. they feel their supporters, donors are tapped out after this historically election campaign. >> more on that in a few moments. thank you. >> the kansas city chiefs will pay for an nfl linebacker's funeral after his suicide. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation" today. not only will the chiefs pay for joevan belcher's funeral, the team has also offered financial assistanc
the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money from super-pacs or anything like that, but they don't want to tap back into their donors. they feel their donors are all tapped out after this election, which, of course, raised record amounts of money. that's why they look to corporate donations. they're pointing out this year the celebrations are going to be much more scaled back. there will be three inaugural balls, no big concert. so it's not the same huge celebration that we saw...
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president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a
president obama telephoned house speaker john boehner tuesday afternoon.rnoo sources describe the exchange as tense. at issue a new republican budget budg proposal, one that came after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from...
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the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is going to have to happen this week. >> if this week goes bad -- >> this week is going to be a critical week. >> even if the speaker and president are cuddling in the lincoln bedroom -- >> i think everybody needs to cool their jets. >> that's not going to get us a deal. >> raising taxes will hurt the economy. >> your stuff stinks. we don't want it. >> if anybody out there who is, quote, rich doesn't think that their taxes go up, drink are on me. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> raising tax rates will hurt the economy. >> we'll push it all the way to the senate and then we'll lose. >>> with 22 days until we take that first step off the fiscal curb, president obama traveled to michigan to keep the pressure on republicans in congress. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh?
the white house says it can happen. >> president obama and speaker boehner sit down at the white house. >> their first one on one in three weeks. >> the heavy lifting is going to have to happen this week. >> if this week goes bad -- >> this week is going to be a critical week. >> even if the speaker and president are cuddling in the lincoln bedroom -- >> i think everybody needs to cool their jets. >> that's not going to get us a deal. >>...
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with president obama holding no public events today, it was the perfect opportunity for boehner to try to change the narrative of the current tax debate and shift some of the pressure onto the president, but the white house was ready to respond with props. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make. where are the president's spending cuts? >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. the speaker of the house sent us a proposal two page long that included one sentence on revenue. pages 17 to 45, details on proposed sending cuts by the president. pages 17 to 45. i recommend them to you. >> speaker boehner's attempt to play the reality card was met with a reality heck from nancy pelosi. >> if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he has the obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. >> we have been calling upon the speaker to bring forth middle income tax cuts for a very long time, in fact, since last summer when it pa
with president obama holding no public events today, it was the perfect opportunity for boehner to try to change the narrative of the current tax debate and shift some of the pressure onto the president, but the white house was ready to respond with props. >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make. where are the president's spending cuts? >> it's not a mystery. we've seen this before. this is the document that contains...
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the white house. we are joined live from kabul. do we know president karzai's response to that invitt nation it comes at an interesting time he gave a controversial interview blaming the u.s. and nato for some of the problems he sees existing in afghanistan. >> reporter: he blamed some of the insecurity here, in part on u.s. and nato forces, their continued presence, their behavior toward the afghan people and the fact that they are still here. we don't yet know what will come of negotiations that are to be continuing next year, if karzai does, in fact, come to the states while necessary d.c. to meet with president obama. we did receive a statement from a u.s. official today on the invitation from the white house, saying that they hope that the negotiations will continue to lay out the rules of the road for a "potential u.s. military presence after 2014." and that is one of the issues that looms large over any talks between the u.s. and afghan officials these days. we know it was a topic of discussion
the white house. we are joined live from kabul. do we know president karzai's response to that invitt nation it comes at an interesting time he gave a controversial interview blaming the u.s. and nato for some of the problems he sees existing in afghanistan. >> reporter: he blamed some of the insecurity here, in part on u.s. and nato forces, their continued presence, their behavior toward the afghan people and the fact that they are still here. we don't yet know what will come of...
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the "new york times" reporting that house speaker john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts against the republican argument that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the
the "new york times" reporting that house speaker john boehner wants to speak only to president obama out of public view. though we've just learned that boehner is holding a news conference at 11:00 this morning eastern time. the fight, though, still very public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package...
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aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown into the basket in terms of talking about the agricultural reform. we do need ag reform in the country. the industry's changed quite a lot. there are a lot of commodities prices are up, a lot of wealthy farmers out there right now but only in certain areas. in some cases those are not the areas that are getting the subsidies that they need. it needs to be rethought from the ground up. food stamps are a separate issue. >> the farm law reverts back to 1949 law. >> anti-quoted. >> that's a long time ago, jay. >> and the rest of the country would be paying as much for milk as we are in new york city. >> $6 a gallon.
aside from it fitting the democrat ex-ideology, it's also what president obama believes is a stimulus to the economy. >> yeah. >> that helps people have disposable income to go to restaurants, buy gas, buy food, to pay things for their children. and i would be very surprised if it ended up as part of the larger deal because it's not going to come in early spring. >> one of the things that's disappointing about this the food stamp issue which i agree with you on is being thrown...
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is there any media pressure on the white house? >> there's no media pressure on the white house to explain any of this. in watching this and talking about the pr and how the press is covering the pr especially out of the white house democrats. and the republicans don't have a coherent messenger, what i find fascinating is that the press doesn't cover why obama is doing what he's doing and gets to your point, john. there's an assumption that the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal cliff like the republicans don't. and i think that's the wrong assumption. i think the president does want to go over the fiscal cliff and yet, there's no coverage of that whatsoever. bob woodward actually gave a video interview to political this week and said who is barack obama and what drives him? it's not a big mystery at this point. >> the media seem to have no problems supporting the idea of putting higher taxes on higher wage earningers in this country and take a look at this from the california teachers union. >> and ordinary people wonder
is there any media pressure on the white house? >> there's no media pressure on the white house to explain any of this. in watching this and talking about the pr and how the press is covering the pr especially out of the white house democrats. and the republicans don't have a coherent messenger, what i find fascinating is that the press doesn't cover why obama is doing what he's doing and gets to your point, john. there's an assumption that the president doesn't want to go over the fiscal...